This and That (A Song of Contradictory Arguments) - song lyrics
Well, there's a lot to argue about in this world
And sometimes it seems like the most important arguments
Are the least likely to end anytime soon
— God or no god? Capitalism, Socialism? /dʒɪf/ or /ɡɪf/...?
And usually when you're arguing with someone
About one of these things,
You do assume that one or the other of you is in fact right.
Usually you assume that's you and maybe you are, and maybe you aren't
But there is also a third possibility
Which perhaps you had not considered
This is the possibility that you're right, and wrong,
And they're wrong, and right, and also neither of you
Are either right or wrong, and at the same time, you're both right
And wrong and neither, about the same thing
For in the case of some arguments
You may find that the principles from which you proceed
Can lead both to your own conclusion
And at the same time to the exact opposite
Of what you were each trying to argue about in the first place
The same is true for whomever you are arguing with
Take for instance the old argument
Between whether the world is ultimately
Spiritual or physical in nature
"Idealism" vs. "materialism"
As they call it in philosophy class
Say the soul does not exist and it's all mere matter
And all our thoughts and feelings are a part that follows after
A product of neurons' automatonic transfer
A "stimulus responding" but not a "conscious answer"
And consciousness at it's noblest is justs the total synthesis
Of ultimately physical, infinitesimal little bits
Which eventually flicker and switch off in impotence
And so the consciousness the constitute is without all significance
That would be the "materialist" viewpoint
But
Your feelings are real and it's real that you're hearing this
And such self-reflection is just what 'soul' and 'spirit' is
And so those physical processes that cause us our fear and bliss
Produce non-physical phenomena that clearly exist
And so matter is inclusive of the principle it's thought to miss
That is, it has a capacity for conscious intelligence
And if you're willing to admit that matter can be conscious
You admit that it includes that wihch it's defined in contrast to
So yeah
Or
Say there's no matter and it's all spirit and soul
And objects that have mass that your hand appears to hold
Are in fact a vast interplay of images
That are really no more real than mere dreams
And we're what makes the dreams go
And we too may be dreams
Of a singular supersoul
And all these dreams' purpose
Is to see through to it's truth and goal
And that which appears to be
An inanimate wad of mere stuff is
Weird enough, actually God
Like when you're on drugs
But
All dreams aside, what happens a lot
Is that I freeze when I'm cold and I burn when I'm hot
And if right now I ate shit and dropped here on this spot
Then the floor would make it clear that an illusion it's not
And if I must define even the clearest sensations as an illusion
Then who even am I? And what am I doing?
And who could I ask that?
If I, as the asker, were not separated from you by our matter
Well, here's a possible answer
It's this and that
And both and neither
And it's a fact
So don't believe it
It's not sense or nonsense
So all that leaves
Is a process though contrasting possibilities
Wherever that leads
Whatever that means
Whomever that includes
And that includes you and me
It is what it isn't
And is and isn't what it seems
So don't be sure and don't be mean
Here's another example
From the domain of political discourse
Say you're a radical progressive, generally defined
You think the preexisting structures should be left behind
We must tear down these systems and then free the mind
From the old guard's traditions that hold it in line
There's no thurth to teach
One seeks but there isn't tho
And therefore we should teach to be creative and critical
'Cause in the absence of any other
Over-arching purpose in the universe
There's just the individual freedom of persons
But isn't this very relativistic reassessment itself
But an expression of a biased entrenchment?
Aren't the very critiques that lead us in a better direction
Themselves all subjective and subject to convention?
And if all absolutes are just inducements of oppession
Is anti-absolutism itself exempt from its own objection?
And doesn't centering ourselves around our own self-invention
Just subject us to yet another centralized conception?
It's a good question
Or you're a radical conservative, economically and socially
And you assert there's a way things are and are not supposed to be
Which means what's yours is yours and what's mine is only owned by me
And you oppose those whose ideas oppose this openly
And the reason we find ourselves in weird situations
Is we're drawing new lines that aren't clear in their placement
As people try to veer from the way that nature made them
And this leads to society's deterioration
But if you find yourself saying there's such a thing as "nature"
That has a fixed form as defined by its "creator"
Wouldn't every strange form "He's" made lately or still hasn't yet
Still be an expression of "His" will and that natural-ness?
And if God is absolute, omniscient and omnipotent
Then he also made revolutions even if you're not into it
And it follows from His omnipotence, omniscience, and absoluteness
That His nature would include both the old school and the new shit
But the truth of it is
It's this and that
And both and neither
You don't know shit
You're not wrong either
Don't be a believer
But also don't assert that there's nothing to believe in
And don't be a jerk
It's absurd to say the facts are certain and exact
And absurd to assert that there's alternative facts
It is what it isn't
But, be it as it is
It's neither, and both
And that, and this
I don't know what I'm doing
I'm just rhyming while doing it
Wise in my foolishness
Blind in my foolish wit
I've been trying to find the truth and I'm behind in pursuit of it
But I might yet find it precisely in losing it
But what good does that do?
And isn't what I'm muttering just an abstract distraction
From the actual suffering of the persons
And facts and the passion of utter being?
Yes, perhaps
That and this other thing
Be nice